Internet Verse Search Commentaries Word Analysis ITL - draft

Proverbs 30:4

Context
NET ©

Who has ascended into heaven, and then descended? 1  Who has gathered up the winds in his fists? 2  Who has bound up the waters in his cloak? 3  Who has established all the ends of the earth? 4  What is his name, and what is his son’s name? 5  – if you know!

NIV ©

Who has gone up to heaven and come down? Who has gathered up the wind in the hollow of his hands? Who has wrapped up the waters in his cloak? Who has established all the ends of the earth? What is his name, and the name of his son? Tell me if you know!

NASB ©

Who has ascended into heaven and descended? Who has gathered the wind in His fists? Who has wrapped the waters in His garment? Who has established all the ends of the earth? What is His name or His son’s name? Surely you know!

NLT ©

Who but God goes up to heaven and comes back down? Who holds the wind in his fists? Who wraps up the oceans in his cloak? Who has created the whole wide world? What is his name––and his son’s name? Tell me if you know!

MSG ©

Has anyone ever seen Anyone climb into Heaven and take charge? grab the winds and control them? gather the rains in his bucket? stake out the ends of the earth? Just tell me his name, tell me the names of his sons. Come on now--tell me!"

BBE ©

Who has gone up to heaven and come down? who has taken the winds in his hands, prisoning the waters in his robe? by whom have all the ends of the earth been fixed? what is his name, and what is his son’s name, if you are able to say?

NRSV ©

Who has ascended to heaven and come down? Who has gathered the wind in the hollow of the hand? Who has wrapped up the waters in a garment? Who has established all the ends of the earth? What is the person’s name? And what is the name of the person’s child? Surely you know!

NKJV ©

Who has ascended into heaven, or descended? Who has gathered the wind in His fists? Who has bound the waters in a garment? Who has established all the ends of the earth? What is His name, and what is His Son’s name, If you know?


KJV
Who hath ascended up
<05927> (8804)
into heaven
<08064>_,
or descended
<03381> (8799)_?
who hath gathered
<0622> (8804)
the wind
<07307>
in his fists
<02651>_?
who hath bound
<06887> (8804)
the waters
<04325>
in a garment
<08071>_?
who hath established
<06965> (8689)
all the ends
<0657>
of the earth
<0776>_?
what [is] his name
<08034>_,
and what [is] his son's
<01121>
name
<08034>_,
if thou canst tell
<03045> (8799)_?
NASB ©
Who
<04310>
has ascended
<05927>
into heaven
<08064>
and descended
<03381>
? Who
<04310>
has gathered
<0622>
the wind
<07307>
in His fists
<02651>
? Who
<04310>
has wrapped
<06887>
the waters
<04325>
in His garment
<08071>
? Who
<04310>
has established
<06965>
all
<03605>
the ends
<0657>
of the earth
<0776>
? What
<04100>
is His name
<08034>
or His son's
<01121>
name
<08034>
? Surely
<03588>
you know
<03045>
!
HEBREW
edt
<03045>
yk
<03588>
wnb
<01121>
Ms
<08034>
hmw
<04100>
wms
<08034>
hm
<04100>
Ura
<0776>
yopa
<0657>
lk
<03605>
Myqh
<06965>
ym
<04310>
hlmvb
<08071>
Mym
<04325>
rru
<06887>
ym
<04310>
wynpxb
<02651>
xwr
<07307>
Poa
<0622>
ym
<04310>
dryw
<03381>
Myms
<08064>
hle
<05927>
ym (30:4)
<04310>
LXXM
tiv
<5100
I-NSM
anebh
<305
V-AAI-3S
eiv
<1519
PREP
ton
<3588
T-ASM
ouranon
<3772
N-ASM
kai
<2532
CONJ
katebh
<2597
V-AAI-3S
tiv
<5100
I-NSM
sunhgagen
<4863
V-AAI-3S
anemouv
<417
N-APM
en
<1722
PREP
kolpw
<2859
N-DSM
tiv
<5100
I-NSM
sunestreqen {V-AAI-3S} udwr
<5204
N-ASN
en
<1722
PREP
imatiw
<2440
N-DSN
tiv
<5100
I-NSM
ekrathsen
<2902
V-AAI-3S
pantwn
<3956
A-GPM
twn
<3588
T-GPM
akrwn {A-GPM} thv
<3588
T-GSF
ghv
<1065
N-GSF
ti
<5100
I-NSN
onoma
<3686
N-NSN
autw
<846
D-DSM
h
<2228
CONJ
ti
<5100
I-NSN
onoma
<3686
N-NSN
toiv
<3588
T-DPM
teknoiv
<5043
N-DPM
autou
<846
D-GSM
ina
<2443
CONJ
gnwv
<1097
V-AAS-2S
NET © [draft] ITL
Who
<04310>
has ascended
<05927>
into heaven
<08064>
, and then descended
<03381>
? Who
<04310>
has gathered up
<0622>
the winds
<07307>
in his fists
<02651>
? Who
<04310>
has bound up
<06887>
the waters
<04325>
in his cloak
<08071>
? Who
<04310>
has established
<06965>
all
<03605>
the ends
<0657>
of the earth
<0776>
? What
<04100>
is his name
<08034>
, and what
<04100>
is his son’s
<01121>
name
<08034>
?– if
<03588>
you know
<03045>
!
NET ©

Who has ascended into heaven, and then descended? 1  Who has gathered up the winds in his fists? 2  Who has bound up the waters in his cloak? 3  Who has established all the ends of the earth? 4  What is his name, and what is his son’s name? 5  – if you know!

NET © Notes

sn To make his point Agur includes five questions. These, like Job 38–41, or Proverbs 8:24-29, focus on the divine acts to show that it is absurd for a mere mortal to think that he can explain God’s work or compare himself to God. These questions display mankind’s limitations and God’s incomparable nature. The first question could be open to include humans, but may refer to God alone (as the other questions do).

sn The questions are filled with anthropomorphic language. The questioner is asking what humans have ever done this, but the meaning is that only God has done this. “Gathering the wind in his fists” is a way of expressing absolute sovereign control over the forces of nature.

sn The question is comparing the clouds of the heavens to garments (e.g., Job 26:8). T. T. Perowne writes, “Men bind up water in skins or bottles; God binds up the rain-floods in the thin, gauzy texture of the changing clouds, which yet by his power does not rend under its burden of waters.”

sn The ends of the earth is an expression often used in scripture as a metonymy of subject referring to the people who live in the ends of the earth, the far off and remote lands and islands. While that is possible here as well, this may simply be a synecdoche saying that God created the whole world, even the most remote and distant places.

sn The reference to “son” in this passage has prompted many suggestions down through the years: It was identified as Israel in the Jewish Midrashim, the Logos or demiurge by some of the philosophers and allegorical writers, as simple poetic parallelism without a separate identity by some critical scholars, and as Jesus by Christian commentators. Parallels with Ugaritic are interesting, because Baal is referred to as a son; but that is bound up within the pantheon where there was a father god. Some of the Jewish commentators exhibit a strange logic in expressing what Christians would say is only their blindness to the full revelation: There is little cogency in this being a reference to Jesus because if there had been such a person at any time in the past he would have left some tradition about it through his descendants (J. H. Greenstone, Proverbs, 317). But Judaism has taught from the earliest times that Messiah was preexistent (especially in view of Micah 5 and Daniel 7); and the claims of Jesus in the Gospels bear this out. It seems best to say that there is a hint here of the nature of the Messiah as Son, a hint that will later be revealed in full through the incarnation.



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